Home (Alone) on Mars: Actor Daniel Stern on leading NASA in ‘For All Mankind’

December 22, 2023

— If certainly there’s a multiverse the place in each potential end result occurs, then in a type of universes Marv Murchins, one half of the “Moist Bandits” from “Dwelling Alone,” is serving as NASA administrator.

As unlikely as that may appear, such a factor is type of taking part in out within the present season of “For All Mankind.” Actor Daniel Stern, who is maybe finest recognized for his position as Marv from the 1990 Christmas comedy, has taken on the a part of the area company’s chief within the Apple TV+ alternate area historical past sequence.

“They known as me up and mentioned, ‘Are you curious about taking part in Eli Hobson, the top of NASA?’ and I put the cellphone down and laughed for about 20 minutes,” mentioned Stern in an interview with collectSPACE. “I then advised my spouse and he or she was like, “What are they drunk? You, as the top of NASA?”

However then Stern learn the script and commenced watching the present. He obtained hooked on its scope and the way it merged the manufacturing high quality of a really costly movie with the intimacy and character growth of a long-running tv sequence. He was notably taken by the enjoyable the writers had been having crafting the present’s alternate timeline, which started with the Soviets beating the People to touchdown people on the moon in 1969.

“I consider it because the butterfly impact,” mentioned Stern. “If with that one moon touchdown we missed our shot, they obtained it and the butterfly impact of that modified the whole lot, as historical past is all the time fashioned by occasions.”

The extra he thought of it, the thought of taking part in the top of NASA appeared like too good a chance to cross up.

“I simply have by no means been part of something like this. They made me get off my butt and really return to work and play Eli Hobson and I’m so glad I did,” he mentioned.


Eli is nothing like Stern’s “Dwelling Alone” character, however that did not cease a few of Stern’s castmates from having to suppress their response to seeing Marv standing reverse them.

“Positively, the primary scene that we had collectively, I simply let that dwell within the room,” mentioned Wrenn Schmidt, whose character, Margo Madison, was the earlier NASA administrator. “For the primary day I feel it was perhaps difficult, however he’s such a stunning, heat man and so humorous.”

“I assumed he was a unprecedented a part of our solid this season and I actually cherished watching his work,” she mentioned.

collectSPACE spoke with Stern about his efficiency on “For All Mankind,” the inspiration for his character and the way being on the present has formed his ideas about area exploration. This interview has been edited for size and readability.

collectSPACE (cS): We all know there is not a lot of a connection between “Dwelling Alone” and “For All Mankind,” however have any of your previous roles been as a part of an area exploration-themed movie or present?

Daniel Stern: “I feel there will need to have been a ‘Marvel Years’ episode with the moon touchdown. That was proper at the moment [that the show was set]. So I in all probability did an episode, however I do not do not forget that.”

“The one factor I did was a horrible, horrible movie known as ‘Leviathan,’ nevertheless it was underwater exploration. Though we needed to put on fits with the massive helmets and stuff like that, so I felt like I used to be on Mars. And I may have very nicely been on Mars with the efficiency I gave.”

cS: You might be one of many few members of the “For All Mankind” solid, at the least within the present season, who was alive for the moon landings. Did you observe the area program rising up?

Stern: “We watched the primary one and our minds had been blown after which each time there was a launch, I watched it, however I did not observe it.

“I do have one other curiosity in it, in that one in every of my finest buddies from highschool works for NASA. He is an interplanetary geologist who’s learning the samples they get from Mars. And that’s actual.

“The capability of what people are able to is all wrapped up within the area program to me. What’s fascinating on ‘For All Mankind’ is that we get to see the know-how that people can create [is] off the charts, however we all the time convey our personal crap with us, our humanity. Our primitive selves are preventing with one another, our tribalism, and that is what’s so fascinating on the present is that dilemma of we’re good sufficient to construct a colony on the moon or in area and but, we’re arguing over whose sandwich that was.

“It is loopy to me as a result of it is all changing into actual. Launching folks on rockets has turn into increasingly simple and personal industries are going up there. It is wild that we’re unleashing these difficult people on the universe.”

cS: Did the creators of “For All Mankind,” Ron Moore, Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi, provide you with any steering on who to base your efficiency on? In actual life in 2003, the NASA administrator was Sean O’Keefe, who previous to taking the job was the Secretary of the Navy and the deputy director for the White Home’s workplace of administration and funds.

Stern: “The one who they type of planted in my head was Lee Iacocca and he was a very good key for me to the Hobson character as a result of Lee Iacocca knew find out how to run an organization. He knew find out how to be progressive, but in addition funds aware. He turned GM round. He was, for many who do not keep in mind him, the top of Chrysler and simply turned that firm round.

“He was additionally a media star. He wasn’t only a bland company chief. He was an outspoken company chief and a political animal in a method.

“So Eli is an extension of Lee Iacocca, who’s buddies with the President [of the United States] and the president will get to select the NASA director. I am not taking part in Lee Iacocca particularly nevertheless it was he who gave me a course for the character.

cS: With out giving something away, however figuring out what occurs this season and the decade-long bounce between seasons that has now turn into anticipated, want to serve one other time period and see Hobson return in Season 5?

Stern: “I do not actually like appearing all that a lot. I’ve so many different passions. I do bronze sculpture, I run a farm and I’ve obtained my grandkids and like. I like my life.

“However I just like the present. It was so good, I needed to be part of it. So I’d positively sacrifice another yr of messing up my life to do it once more as a result of there have been such good folks on the present. It’s got quite a bit to say, it was an amazing half, so how can I say no to that?”

The fourth season of “For All Mankind” made its world debut on Friday, Nov. 10, 2023 on Apple TV+, and is now streaming one new episode weekly each Friday by Jan. 12, 2024.

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